Pennsylvania GPS legislation regarding TRUCKS being wrongfully led down some roads
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Living in PA I understand the thought behind this but I think all this would do is stop GPS companies from selling GPS in PA. This legislation seems like a herculean task and nearly impossible to practically accomplish.
In the near future, I plan to introduce legislation that would fine a Global Positioning System (GPS) navigation provider for guiding a truck into a prohibited area.
Pennsylvania has some of the oldest roads, bridges, and highways in the country, and many of these roadways are prohibited to trucks that deliver our necessary goods. This is for the safety of the truckers themselves, but also to stave off potential damage to the roadways in our communities and damage to personal property. As technology has evolved, GPS has provided truckers with invaluable information showing which routes to take, which routes to avoid, and which routes are prohibited. However, not all truckers use the same exact same GPS, and of the myriad GPS systems currently on the market, not all share the same abilities for keeping our truckers and communities safe.
To that end, my legislation imposes a $2,000 fine on a GPS provider for guiding a trucker into an area that is prohibited. My legislation does not seek to punish truckers for being guided into an area that is prohibited, which they would not know about, instead my legislation places the burden and liability on the GPS provider rather than the trucker. Furthermore, my legislation does not mandate a specific type of GPS but does ensure that GPS providers keep their information up to date or pay a hefty fine. As GPS use has steadily increased over the years, we should not punish truckers for using the invaluable tool to deliver our goods, but we should hold GPS providers accountable when they do not readily update their information and send our truckers into prohibited areas, which harm them and our communities.
Representative Ann Flood
R House District 138
Very Bad Idea
If I break the law driving my vehicle, then I am responsible. Not the GPS, not the vehicle manufacturer, not the company that made my coffee.
The GPS already has a warning disclaimer on a startup screen explaining that the driver is responsible for legal and safe use of the product.
Also, the GPS can't read the road signs, that's part of the driver's job.
Old Geezer
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Ridiculous!
Another piece of useless & unenforceable legislation designed to make a politician look good.
Delivery drivers getting trucks stuck is a common occurrence around here. Most are underpaid and rely on GPSr's that can be 10 years old.
This happens in my neighbors driveway on a regular basis and I'm the guy who gets called to pull the truck out with my tractor. I personally see these mostly automotive GPS units and they don't even have the current map updates. Heck, most of the drivers purchased them in a pawn shop and don't even know how to do the updates.
To top it off, GPS manufacturers use maps & databases produced by other companies and have no control over the content.
I don't see how this law will have any benefit. Certainly not enough to offset the harm it may do to the industry.
Is there any other kind?
Another piece of useless & unenforceable legislation designed to make a politician look good.
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You'd be surprised, or maybe you wouldn't, to see just how much of our legislators time is spent on crap like this, at all levels of gov't.
. 2 Garmin DriveSmart 61 LMT-S, Nuvi 2689, 2 Nuvi 2460, Uniden R3 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N Garmin based, built into my Jeep. .
Apparently nutjobs on both
Apparently nutjobs on both sides of the isle.
A New Trend
This is kinda in that new vein of trying to legislate the tools people have/use and not what they did/are doing with them. They are trying to do similar crap with 3d printers in a few states. Unfortunately it's all just a a sham to justify more invasive surveillance...
speed limits
Most GPSs, whether standalone or built-in, display speed limits for the current road. It's not the least bit uncommon for those to be wrong. If the GPS-displayed speed limit is higher than what the road signs show, will this let me legally speed, with the excuse "the GPS said so!"
Write your representative
I have sent my thoughts on to my district’s representative. All forum members from PA should do the same, expressing the impracticality of the bill as currently worded. Drivers of vehicles should be held responsible with repeat offenders subject to loss of their license.
Distantly related, I see that Sean Duffy ordered last week that all CDL license exams be given in English.
John from PA
Reading Road Signs
If I break the law driving my vehicle, then I am responsible. Not the GPS, not the vehicle manufacturer, not the company that made my coffee.
The GPS already has a warning disclaimer on a startup screen explaining that the driver is responsible for legal and safe use of the product.
Also, the GPS can't read the road signs, that's part of the driver's job.
My Honda reads speed limit signs.
Mark
English vs international
Not sure if u are in favor or against the, BUT unless the states are going to mandate that road signs be dual language (likely Spanish and English), I think English only CDL is fair. Why would you allow someone who can't read English tests to drive a big rig and not be able to read road signs.
Of course, using international symbols would help, but that would be like changing to metric, both being better than English for the diversity of people residing here. OOPS, that was politically incorrect in todays environment. Damn, those two words keep comming up, don't they?
dual signs
Not sure if u are in favor or against the, BUT unless the states are going to mandate that road signs be dual language (likely Spanish and English), I think English only CDL is fair. Why would you allow someone who can't read English tests to drive a big rig and not be able to read road signs.
Of course, using international symbols would help, but that would be like changing to metric, both being better than English for the diversity of people residing here. OOPS, that was politically incorrect in todays environment. Damn, those two words keep comming up, don't they?
I've never been to Spain, but are all their signs in both Spanish and English? How about other non English primary language countries? Even with international symbols, some are not easily understood. Pretty sure it would be up to me to learn them, same should stay the case in USA.
. 2 Garmin DriveSmart 61 LMT-S, Nuvi 2689, 2 Nuvi 2460, Uniden R3 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N Garmin based, built into my Jeep. .
Shapes and symbols
I've never been to Spain, but are all their signs in both Spanish and English? How about other non English primary language countries? Even with international symbols, some are not easily understood. Pretty sure it would be up to me to learn them, same should stay the case in USA.
Russia only uses Cyrillic. In Quebec, signs - especially Stop signs - are in French. The best thing if traveling internationally is to learn what signs are by shapes, colors and symbols, not letters. For example, the Quebec stop sign reads, "ARRET". However, even if you don't speak or read French you know it's a stop sign because of its shape (octagon) and color (red).
P.S. I don't think I explicitly said it, but your general sentiment is spot on.
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I've never been to Spain, but are all their signs in both Spanish and English? How about other non English primary language countries? Even with international symbols, some are not easily understood. Pretty sure it would be up to me to learn them, same should stay the case in USA.
Russia only uses Cyrillic. In Quebec, signs - especially Stop signs - are in French. The best thing if traveling internationally is to learn what signs are by shapes, colors and symbols, not letters. For example, the Quebec stop sign reads, "ARRET". However, even if you don't speak or read French you know it's a stop sign because of its shape (octagon) and color (red).
P.S. I don't think I explicitly said it, but your general sentiment is spot on.
Thanks, I do realize a lot of the international signs are pretty easy to figure out, but it's still up to me to understand them beforehand. The speed limits would mess me up, and did when I visited the Niagara Falls area. Informational signs wouldn't be in 2 languages most places so there's that too.
I still wouldn't blindly follow GPS, if paper maps exist I might check them first, or even run my trip via Google street view where possible. I'm retired now but was a truck driver long before GPS was a thing, had a backpack full of maps.
The was a truck this morning hit a bridge, the truck was 14 foot high, east of the Mississippi it's generally know you don't drive a truck higher than 13'6", I wonder if he was blindly following a GPS. If he was, the manufacturer of the GPS should not be liable.
. 2 Garmin DriveSmart 61 LMT-S, Nuvi 2689, 2 Nuvi 2460, Uniden R3 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N Garmin based, built into my Jeep. .